okay, so there was some minor difference ..It is easily possible to simulate these various types of scales today in the computer and you have to pay real close attention to make the difference. My point was simply that the psychological reaction to music doesnt depend on these small mathematical errors.
In other words, a minor thirds for example will have the same effect whether the thirds is +/- 3 or 4 Hz. Thats the beauty of music. It is not mathematics, but needs the right brain!
In Bach’s time there was no equal temperament as we know it today. In the Baroque period everyone had their own system, some even adopted others and modified them. I personally believe Bach had his own system, “the well tempered system”. Baroque temperaments often sound much better the modern equal temperament. With a meantone or Silbermann temperament you could only play within a limited number of keys before things stated to sound what a modern mind would perceive as “cheesy”.
I strongly uphold nevetheless123 and Ms Hungster. It definitely matters who plays this work and in this particular take Alfred Brendel is just perfect (in my humble opinion, of course).
Special thanks to Sissco for posting this video thereby making hundreds of thousands of people feel happy for a moment and, first of all,
HATS OFF, MR. BRENDEL!!!
oh. common!! You are going to argue with me about tiny mathematical errors and equal temperament vs just intonation tuning. right? This is completely irrelevant to my point. But in anycase isnt always tuned in equal temperment since Bach? How would you modulate or else?
Next you are going to tell me that people in those days had too much ear wax so
they wouldnt have heard this the same way. Urggg some people are just difficult.
this music was written 150 years before the record player, electronics and computer, software.
Still sounds the same as Schubert would have heard it, and sounds better than most of the crap that gets Grammy awards today!
He escuchado tantas veces esta obra maravillosa de Schubert e interpretada magistralmente por Brendel, es el mejor Impromptu de todos los que he escuchado. Es mágico
@MsHungster I suppose he is a virtuoso. But I’ve come to this conclusion, people put much too much emphasis on the interpret -non only in classical music, modern too- instead of celebrating the creative genius that brought the piece to existence.
Yes, there is interest in the competing powerful personalities of the different interprets, their personal lifes/soap opera drama/trivia and so on but this is collateral,instead of analyzing the interpretation, and even so it has become too overrated
@grizeldaaa You are correct in saying that this would be a beautiful piece regardless of who plays this. However, to appreciate the genius of Brendel’s playing, I recommend that you listen to other pianists playing this. Then you will see that Brendel plays this to perfection!
More Brendel: Schubert Op. 90/3
wait, but doesn’t “1 times better” mean that he sounds just as good?
I was simply adding a little detail, I was not trying to criticize you.
this piece was voted the greatest piano composition a few years ago.
@4gs8vh4gs8vh (shit)? lol haha just joking, he’s awesome
@terrygowork
unfortunately yes, several months ago. World’s lost one of its best beethoven interpreters.
I agree, is he retired from the concert stage?
he was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (insert swear word) great!!!
I would say that music is poetry with a ‘mathematical’ scheme that is not systematic, but like waves in an ocean.
okay, so there was some minor difference ..It is easily possible to simulate these various types of scales today in the computer and you have to pay real close attention to make the difference. My point was simply that the psychological reaction to music doesnt depend on these small mathematical errors.
In other words, a minor thirds for example will have the same effect whether the thirds is +/- 3 or 4 Hz. Thats the beauty of music. It is not mathematics, but needs the right brain!
Although I’m not too familiar with the matter of temperament when it comes to the classical period. So there I respectfully draw the line.
In Bach’s time there was no equal temperament as we know it today. In the Baroque period everyone had their own system, some even adopted others and modified them. I personally believe Bach had his own system, “the well tempered system”. Baroque temperaments often sound much better the modern equal temperament. With a meantone or Silbermann temperament you could only play within a limited number of keys before things stated to sound what a modern mind would perceive as “cheesy”.
I strongly uphold nevetheless123 and Ms Hungster. It definitely matters who plays this work and in this particular take Alfred Brendel is just perfect (in my humble opinion, of course).
Special thanks to Sissco for posting this video thereby making hundreds of thousands of people feel happy for a moment and, first of all,
HATS OFF, MR. BRENDEL!!!
oh. common!! You are going to argue with me about tiny mathematical errors and equal temperament vs just intonation tuning. right? This is completely irrelevant to my point. But in anycase isnt always tuned in equal temperment since Bach? How would you modulate or else?
Next you are going to tell me that people in those days had too much ear wax so
they wouldnt have heard this the same way. Urggg some people are just difficult.
@kumikopiano
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@MsHungster
I just heard this composition, played by someone who was defenitely not skilled enough, and let me tell you, it DOES matter who plays it.
@nevertheless123
Not exactly the same, instruments where tuned differently back then.
this music was written 150 years before the record player, electronics and computer, software.
Still sounds the same as Schubert would have heard it, and sounds better than most of the crap that gets Grammy awards today!
this guy sound 1 times better then vladmir horoquits
harika
He escuchado tantas veces esta obra maravillosa de Schubert e interpretada magistralmente por Brendel, es el mejor Impromptu de todos los que he escuchado. Es mágico
superbe! touched my soul!
@MsHungster I suppose he is a virtuoso. But I’ve come to this conclusion, people put much too much emphasis on the interpret -non only in classical music, modern too- instead of celebrating the creative genius that brought the piece to existence.
Yes, there is interest in the competing powerful personalities of the different interprets, their personal lifes/soap opera drama/trivia and so on but this is collateral,instead of analyzing the interpretation, and even so it has become too overrated
@grizeldaaa You are correct in saying that this would be a beautiful piece regardless of who plays this. However, to appreciate the genius of Brendel’s playing, I recommend that you listen to other pianists playing this. Then you will see that Brendel plays this to perfection!
i don’t think it has anything to do with his playing, it is all about schubert’s genious in composing romantically
absolutely wonderful….at 1:37- 2:00 I got shivers from the utter emotion and conviction in brendel’s playing.